First Look at My 2017 Zpacks Arc Haul Gridstop Backpack

In late 2013 I was “talked into” buying a new Zpacks Arc Blast backpack. As it turned out, that pack ended up being the best pack I have ever used. Sure, it was a 60 liter backpack, so not really a small backpack, but I found that I was reaching for it on any hike I went on that wasn’t in the dead of summer (which for these hikes, even my XS Zero backpack can be too big… lol!) The Arc Blast backpack fit me like a glove and it was comfortable (even with total pack weights reaching into the mid 20’s). It had all the features I needed and wanted, and none that I didn’t want (I’m looking at you hydration port). For me, it just worked. I loved that backpack, but in time I came to find one small issue with it, which ultimately would make the pack unusable for me…

Back then, the Arc line of backpacks were built a bit differently from today’s Arc line of backpacks. Most notably (in my case), the hip belts on the older packs were actually 2 wings that were sewn directly to the pack, as opposed to the one piece hip belts that can now be changed out like on the current model. My problem was that I was quite a bit heavier when I bought my Arc Blast in 2013, and now today my waist is a bit slimmer. This meant that the hip belt on my Arc Blast was now almost too big to be useable, but not able to be changed out. What’s funny though, is that while on another hike, just last month, I was again “talked into” buying another new Zpacks backpack…

While it’s true, soon enough the hip belt on my Arc Blast would simply be too big for me to use correctly, I didn’t actually have any plans on buying a new pack just yet… And truth be told, I still could have waited a bit longer before buying a new pack (especially with the summer months coming up), but I got the bug… So now here I am, the owner of a brand spanking new Zpacks Arc Haul backpack!

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When I got back home from the Fiery Gizzard hike last month, I grabbed my computer and clicked on the ever-so-convenient Zpacks bookmark, and started looking at the different backpacks (like I didn’t already know…) The thing about Zpacks now versus back when I bought my Arc Blast backpack, is that “customizations” or “requests” are no longer an option. Now, items are ordered as they appear on the site, and no different. (Saying that, Zpacks does still offer a number of add-on options for their packs, so in a way, they are still customizable… just not to the same degree that they used to be.) As it turned out, it was a pretty easy decision as to which pack I would have to get based on my needs and what they offer…

The only 2 packs that I really considered was the Arc Blast (55L and in DCF) and the Arc Haul (62L and in gridstop*). I did not consider either of the Zip models because I prefer a mesh front pocket as opposed to their solid, non-breathable front pockets. And being that I didn’t want to go smaller than 60L (based on the fact that I will be carrying a Bearikade Weekender in this pack for an upcoming JMT hike), this knocked the Arc Blast out and left only the Arc Haul. So like I said, it was an easy decision…

So, here are some initial (pre-purchase) thoughts I had about the Arc Haul backpack:

  • My first thought was the material… While I really wanted to stick with DCF (or the “hybrid cuben/nylon material”), the Arc Haul is only offered in the gridstop material. My thoughts were that the DCF material is actually waterproof, where as I assumed that the gridstop material was not as waterproof as DCF. I also assumed that the gridstop material may absorb more water than the DCF material, which is a concern for me since I store my backpack inside my tent with me at camp, so naturally I would like my pack to stay as dry as possible. As well, DCF does weigh a bit less than gridstop, which would result in an overall lighter weight backpack. On the flip-side, gridstop is a more durable material, especially when it comes to abrasion resistance, which also means that I don’t have to worry so much about the backpack, and that it will very likely last longer than one made from DCF.
  • Weight. This thought was very much on the heels of material choices (or lack thereof…) The Arc Haul has a listed base weight of 24 oz! This is heavy considering that my older Arc Blast backpack weighed less than 21 oz with a lumbar pad, a shoulder pouch, 2 hip belt pockets, and a few other small DIY add on’s. I knew that I would also be adding 2 hip belt pockets, and the lumbar pad to the new Arc Haul, so these weights would be in addition to the above listed 24 oz (which would now bring the total expected weight to 26.5 oz). This means that the new backpack would weigh 5+ oz more than my Arc Blast… that was something to think about for sure!
  • Size. Sure, it was only 2 liters more than my Arc Blast, which already seemed like a large-ish backpack, but I knew that I wanted to stick with at least a 60L backpack, so while size was something that crossed my mind, it wasn’t as loud as the material and weight option’s were.

So, early on a Tuesday morning I submitted my order for a new Arc Haul backpack with a small torso length and a medium waist belt, and of course the 2 gridstop hip belt pockets and the lumbar pad too. And I am happy to say that on that Friday afternoon, it was already sitting on my doorstep! (This speedy turn over time is a result of doing away with all the customizations and moving towards “off the shelf” products.) I anxiously snatched the box off the porch, ran inside and opened it up, then I just sat there with it in my lap and marveled at its beauty! After a bit I grabbed all of my gear that I plan on packing for my upcoming JMT hike and loaded it all up, including my Bearikade Weekender bear can! The pack swallowed the gear whole, then I slung it on my back. This is when I realized that the small torso may actually be just a little too small for me…

After fiddling with the straps, and making readjustments here and there, I realized that I did in fact need the medium torso height as opposed to the small. When I measured myself (according to Zpacks instructions) I found that my torso was actually closer to 20″, so it wasn’t really a big surprise that the small was just a hair too small. Not to worry though… I was actually planning to drive to Miami soon, so this was the perfect reason for me to stop in at Zpacks (like I really needed a reason… lol)!

Once I made it to Zpacks I was able to compare the (new) small size torso (which is now about an inch longer than the one I received), and the medium size torso lengths. As I expected, I ended up coming home with the medium length. And while I did go with the black backpack at first, and despite that while on the (long) drive there I was thinking that I would end up coming home with the blue one, I actually ended up coming home with the green one (which my wife had to pick out for me since I couldn’t decide at the time… lol!)

When I got my new Arc Haul backpack home I immediately loaded all my gear into the pack again… but this time I found the fit was much better. In fact, after adjusting everything to suit me, it felt just like I was wearing my old Arc Blast! So while I was still quite bummed that I was replacing my old Arc Blast with a non cuben fiber backpack, at least I now knew that the Arc Haul fit me just as good as my Arc Blast! As for the material, well I figure I will grow to love it too…

So, here are some of my thoughts now that I have the pack in my possession (but still not with any actual use):

  • Material. I am still a bit bummed that I am not using a cuben fiber pack, but as I said above, this Gridstop material is more durable than DCF and will ultimately result in a longer life. As well, when rolling the collar down and buckling it closed, I found that it is actually more difficult to push any remaining air out of the pack than I thought it would be. This means that it is more air tight (and water tight) than I thought it might be. This makes me happier, but I am still curious to see how the material does when exposed to the rain. At this point, I am planning to forego my beloved pack cover just to see how I like going without it, so the backpack will be completely exposed to any rain that falls… On with the trials!
  • Weight. My exact pack now is the Arc Haul with a medium torso and a medium hip belt, and also includes the lumbar pad and 2 gridstop hip belt pockets. The combined weight of these pieces comes in at 26.7 oz on my scale at home (which is only 0.2 oz more than spec’d, and in my opinion is pretty impressive considering all the different sizes available). I have also added small loops for my DIY water bottle holder on the shoulder straps, which now brings the total weight of the backpack to 26.8 oz. Now, this number is still larger than I am used to, but when I consider everything that this backpack actually is, I admit that it is still a rather low number… just not as low as I am used to. I will get over this in time I think. If not, well I still have 3 other Zpacks Zero backpacks to choose from for any hikes that do not require all of my cold weather gear and a bear can!
  • Size. Wow, this backpack is only 2 liters bigger than my Arc Blast, but it actually seems like it is so much bigger than that! I can actually lay my Bearikade Weekender sideways inside the pack (see photo below), which I couldn’t do at all in my older (smaller) Arc Blast. This really is a big backpack… Considering the size of it, along with the weight, there is a good chance that this pack won’t get as much use as my Arc Blast did, even though I (will probably) like the way it rides so much! I’ll see though… I didn’t expect to use my Arc Blast so much at first either…
  • Other considerations: I do like that the straps are more of an “S” shape as opposed to a “J” shape. While I haven’t actually used the backpack yet, at this point I do like the way these new straps hug my shoulders better. As for the new padding material on the shoulder straps and hip belt, well, I never had an issue with the older, foam wrapped in cuben fiber style… Maybe these new ones will be more comfortable? I don’t know. I also like that they have decided to go with a dual “V” strap on the hip belt as opposed to just a single strap, however, I have found that as my waist line slimmed down over time, this wasn’t as significant for me. When I was rounder around the waist and belly, a “V” strap was nice because I could cinch the bottom straps more than the top, which made the belt cradle my belly rather than just squeezing it. With a slimmer waist line though, I have found that this just doesn’t seem to be as much of an issue for me any more. And of course, while I can’t tell any difference yet, I am glad that the shoulder straps and load lifters are now attached to the frame itself, and that the hip belt is now integrated with the frame. Not to mention that I now have the option of changing out hip belts if I ever need too again!

Now don’t get me wrong, there are some things about this backpack that I am not super excited about too, although, these things are not necessarily deal breakers… For one, I wish the pack body was all the same color. This was the reason I chose black the first time I ordered it. When I first saw the green color gridstop at the ATKO this year, I really, really liked it, but I also really wanted a backpack that was all the same color (at least the body – I rather like that the side pockets are black). As it turned out though (or, with my wife’s help) I ended up with the green backpack anyway, and I admit that I am pretty happy about it. Another hang up is that I do not care for hydration ports, and wish that my pack didn’t have one. For me, it’s just unnecessary extra material, which is unnecessary extra weight, but even more so, it’s just a big unnecessary hole in the back of my backpack. Sure, I can tape it up from the inside, but that’s not what I want to do either… I would prefer a back panel with no holes in it whatsoever, just solid. Unfortunately, both of these hang ups qualify as customizations, which Zpacks no longer does anymore. Despite these things though, (and more importantly) this pack fits me well, and overall is what I want in a backpack. This is ultimately why I chose to stay with the Arc line of backpacks from Zpacks for my new backpack.

At this point, I am (obviously) pretty excited about my new Arc Haul backpack. The sad thing is, it will be several months before I get to take it out on its first real journey… like around Thanksgiving time! I have a hike coming up in a few weeks, but it will be way to hot for me to need such a large pack… After that, it will likely be Thanksgiving before I am able to get out for another hike… (I know, it’s sad…) Besides this though, I am pretty confident/excited about using this backpack on my JMT hike next year, and while #icantbelieveitsnotcubenfiber, I’ll admit that it is a little nice knowing that this is just a tougher, more durable backpack… Now if I could just get a smaller Arc Blast… lol!

So, until I actually get some use in with this pack, thanks for stopping by!

~Stick~

Disclaimer: I paid for this pack with my own money, however, I did get a 14% discount off the total price. I am not sponsored by, nor affiliated with Zpacks in any way, other than the fact that I have bought and used a lot of their gear in the last 6+ years. I am not obligated to share my thoughts on this pack, or advertise this pack in any way. I published this post because I wanted to share this information, and my opinions of this pack. Again, I am not being paid in any way for publishing this article.

*For more information about the “gridstop” material, check out the “materials” page on the Zpacks website. 

About Stick

My blog is essentially a record of my hiking career. Through it, I, and others, can see how I have evolved from a heavy weight backpacker, to a smarter, more efficient, lightweight backpacker. Through the use of video, still photos, and of course writing, one can see my progression, as well as check out some of the places I hike, and not to mention some cool, lightweight gear options. For me, my blog is a journal, but for others, I hope that it is an interactive learning tool to aid them in their own progression towards lightweight backpacking.
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26 Responses to First Look at My 2017 Zpacks Arc Haul Gridstop Backpack

  1. bill says:

    after two years, how was the dyneema x gridstop material held up? have you found it to be waterproof?

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    • Stick says:

      Bill,

      So far the material has held up fine, I would say about the same as my old ULA Circuit. And in my experience, the material also does a good job at keeping water out, however, I still prefer to use a lightweight pack liner just in case. I would imagine that with extensive use though, the material will eventually start letting some water through.

      ~Stick~

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  4. Erik says:

    Stick,
    You mentioned that you compared the medium and small torso lengths…over on BPL there’s some debate as to whether the short and medium frames have the same stay length, but the upper cross bar is mounted lower on the short. Most folks over there agree that is the case. Can you verify this? Any pics by chance? I’m right in the middle of torso lengths, and can’t make up my mind! Generally I’d opt for the taller frame, but I’ve seen recommendations to go for the smaller one if you’re on the edge. Thanks!

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    • Stick says:

      Erik,

      To be fair, the small that I got was the last of a previous version… what this means is the the smalls on the site now are slightly longer than what mine was. When I was at Zpacks I tried on both (unloaded) and just felt that the medium was a better fit for me. (And if it makes any difference, when using their older sizing model, the previous 5 packs I bought were order as the “tall +1″…) Anyway, the stays are different lengths because the top horizontal bar is higher up on the pack on each larger model. The lower and middle bars are the same IIRC, but the top is what is different. Because of this the stays would have to be longer, or shorter, to reach the top horizontal bar.

      And the reason that they suggest going with the shorter frame (assuming you fall into the size range) is because if you are at the lower end of say a medium, then you will need to pull the shoulder straps all the way to the bottom, but the bar will be near the back of your head and each time you look up it will likely hit the bar. However, if you went with the size small and used the full amount of length for the shoulder straps, the horizontal bar would be lower and wouldn’t be in the way so much.

      Hope that makes sense… and helps!

      ~Stick~

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  5. Tango says:

    Hey Stick! Love your blog and videos. I haven’t reached out to ZPacks yet to ask them, but are you supposed to store the Arc backpacks with the arc left in the frame or do you store it flat? I just got an Arc Haul and love it… I got it for one reason… the airflow on the back. 🙂

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    • Stick says:

      Tango,

      I store mine left in the arched position. I don’t think they say/recommend one way or the other… wouldn’t hurt to ask though. Enjoy your new pack!

      ~Stick~

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  6. Adam says:

    Just curious how tall you are, I am 5’9 175lbs with a 19″ torso, debating between the short and medium, it says size down if you’re on the fence and 19″ is on the border. Any thoughts?

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    • Stick says:

      Adam,

      I am 5’10”, but as you probably know, height doesn’t really determine torso length. Saying that, when measuring my torso I get 19.5″. I am happy with my Haul in a size medium. One reason they say size down is because the bar at the top of the frame will stick up higher with a medium than a small, so if you size up, when you look up while wearing the pack the back of your head/neck may hit the frame. This is not the issue for me though… I am not sure what to tell you on this though… However, I would say message them about it and figure out which one you think would be the best and order it. Then, when it comes back, if it doesn’t work, send it back and swap for the other size. Of course this takes more time, and you will probably have to pay for return shipping, but at least you will end up with the one you think works best. Another option would be to order both sizes and return the one that doesn’t fit.

      On another note, keep in mind that they have closed down shop for a bit due to the hurricane… I am not sure if they have already opened back up, or what the situation is exactly at this moment, but they may be out of pocket for a bit…

      Good luck with you decision!

      ~Stick~

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  7. Ned Flanders says:

    Stick,

    Did you use the pack yet? I have a couple questions for you before pulling the trigger on an Arc Haul Zip myself.

    – Water resistance of Gridstop. Any experience yet? Good to hear from Richard that it’s pretty waterproof. Also, when you squeeze the air out, does it escape by any particular route that could be seam-taped inside to improve this?

    – Weight capacity. I plan on using it for travel, and for climbing/summiting some large mountains, so often I will carry more than your average (or UL) through-hiker might. Why do you feel 30 pounds is the max weight it can handle? What, in your experience, happens with the frame comfort at, say, 40, 50, or 60 pounds compared to other packs? Does it collapse, and/or dig into your hips, or what? I am willing to customize it a little to alleviate this. Website says 40 pounds for the Arc Haul Zip.

    Thanks!!!!!!!

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    • Stick says:

      Ned,

      Note that I have the regular Arc Haul and not the Arc Haul Zip. However, the frame and the carrying capacity is listed at the same on both packs.

      At this point, I have only used my pack on some smaller, short hikes. On these hikes my experiences with the pack were good, although about 15 – 17 lbs is all I have loaded it up with. None of these hikers were in the rain either, so other than splashing some water on it, I can’t respond to how it fares in true rainy conditions. I did come across a video from Tim Watson though that really displays a very waterproof pack…

      As for my pack, when rolled closed and pressed on, it holds air pretty dang well. I am sure there is some air seeping out, but not enough to track down where it may be coming from, nor enough to cause any concern or feel the need to add any extra tape. This thing is sealed up pretty great!

      As for weight, I don’t recall saying that 30 lbs is the max carrying weight on this pack. The Zpacks site list 40 lbs as its max carrying capacity, however I personally don’t plan to ever carry more than 30 lbs in it. So I can’t comment on carrying heavier weights in this pack either. Saying all of that though, If I ever planned to carrying 50 or 60 lbs for extended periods of time I would likely look for a different pack. Don’t get me wrong, the Arc packs are some awesome packs, but they have their limits and while I can only assume, I figure 50+ lbs may be pushing those limits. I would suggest maybe checking on backpacking light or some other forums though… I am sure someone has tried carrying more than 40 lbs in it!

      Good luck!

      ~Stick~

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    • Ned Flanders says:

      Hi diddly ho Stickorino!

      Thanks for your feedback and for the video link. Happy trails!

      Ned Flanders

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    • Stick says:

      No problem Ned! Take care! 🙂

      ~Stick~

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  8. Aaron says:

    I’ve had mine about a year and a half, used it for two weeks on the AT last year, worked out great, as well as regular hikes when I lived in Washington state for a year. I currently use it on dayhikes as well, I don’t like owning a lot of stuff, so I have one pack and do everything with it. It compresses pretty well for even a small load(7lb baseweight with a bit of food and 2L water on some of my dayhikes). That’s my normal base pack weight, I just take all of it sometimes on dayhikes.

    I also will be using it for my backpack for college the next two semesters. It is highly water resistant, most schoolbags aren’t. Also, it carries the weight of my textbooks better(senior level chemistry courses have 5 inch thick books, same with advanced math classes), and has room for workout clothes, jacket, rainjacket, ect, that a regular bookbag won’t hold, or hold the weight as well.

    I’m very pleased with it so far, and it seems durable enough to last me many years of use. I’ll be doing 3 months on the AT after I graduate next year, did a thru hike in 2010, and this will be my first time in awhile getting to go on another long hike.

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    • Stick says:

      Aaron,

      That is a great mindset to have, both on and off the trail! Saying that, I should get rid of some of my stuff… lol!

      Anyway, it’s great to hear that you have enjoyed using yours, and that you are making it work in so many different places for you. I hope the edges on those textbooks don’t wear the materials down though! (Although I guess now-a-days most books are e-books… lol!

      Thanks for stopping by!

      ~Stick~

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  9. traviswolfe85gmailcom says:

    I’m looking at getting a new pack. Never heard of these , but I’m liking them .

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    • Stick says:

      Travis,

      While I haven’t had the chance to use this pack exactly just yet, I have been using an Arc frame backpack since 2013, and I love it! I would say that as long as your total pack weight is generally 30lbs or less, this pack definitely deserves a look! Zpacks is an excellent company, and makes excellent gear to boot!

      ~Stick~

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  10. Rachel says:

    Nice review Stick. One big advantage of the lighter color material is that it’s much easier to see your gear.

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  11. Awesome review! I’ve never used a Zpacks pack, but have had my eye on this one.

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    • Stick says:

      Drew,

      This is my 6th Zpacks backpack so far! Counting the new Arc Haul, I still own 4. I sold my old Blast 30 several years ago, and recently sold my Arc Blast. I still wish I could get an Arc Blast in about a 40L (total volume counting side pockets and front mesh pocket) though… that would be awesome to have for warmer weather hikes! Anyway, if you decide to go with one, the great thing is that they are now basically “on-the-shelf” and ready to ship, so no long waits anymore!

      ~Stick~

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    • Wow, awesome to hear that this is your 6th pack from them. The ‘on-the-shelf’ product availability is great to hear. I love seeing these cottage manufacturers being able ramp up their production to meet the growing demand from people like us.

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    • Stick says:

      Drew,

      Yeah, it is nice to see wait times go from 8+ weeks to ready to ship. Of course, the result of this is no more customizations, but I gotta admit, Zpacks makes a pretty nice stock backpack… 🙂

      ~Stick~

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  12. Richard says:

    I think you’ll be happy with the dyneema as I recently bought a MLD prophet in dyneema. I did a short 2.5 day 55 Mile section from rockfish gap to waynesboro which I had severe downpours all day….very little water was inside the pack after a 21 mile day….

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    • Stick says:

      Richard,

      That is good to hear, and lines up with many other comments and responses I have gotten from others with backpacks using this same type of material! I was happy to find that it was a bit harder than I expected to push the air out of the bag when it was rolled and clipped close. I am planing to start leaving my pack cover behind and just letting the pack get rained directly on to see how I like the results… I like my pack covers, but they can be annoying too… just like having to put on and take off rain gear… lol!

      Thanks for the feedback, and for stopping by!

      ~Stick~

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